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  1. David

    David Guest

    They say that the biggest stumbling block preventing most vegetarians from going full vegan is cheese and they’re not wrong. Vegan cheeses have come a long way but I still can’t find either a retail product or recipe than has the qualities I need.
    One of my favorite dishes (made with mozzarella) takes 3-4 minutes in the microwave and leaves the mozzarella in an extremely chewy (but still slightly stringy) state. As I’m trying to replace a texture rather than a taste what kind of vegan-friendly substitution can be made here? Should I be looking for something that isn’t trying to be cheese?
     
  2. Indian Summer

    Indian Summer Cult Leader Administrator

    Thanks to my admin eyes, I can add that the question appears to relate to the UK market.

    I occasionally eat vegan cheeses, but I'm no addict or expert at all. I've been pleasantly surprised by a brand called Violife. See e.g. this thread for a discussion: New vegan cheese - Violife

    I thought Violife was somewhat mozzarella-like, but not sure what happens to it if nuked in the micro for that long!
     
  3. Calliegirl

    Calliegirl Deity

  4. David Richmond

    David Richmond Not-So-Newbie

    The reviews all seem to liken Violife to Vegourmet, which is unsurprising considering the similarity of the ingredients. Ditto Green Vie, which I tried recently. Looks very much like mozzarella, and tastes good… but doesn’t react the same in the one dish where I need it. That reaction is not one that manufacturers would be trying to repicate in a vegan cheese so I’m not surprised. That’s why I wondered if there was some other plant-based concoction that might give me what I’m looking for. The closest I’ve managed has been with coconut oil and tapioca starch experiments so I wasn’t surprised that they were the main ingredients in these 3 popular cheeses.
     
  5. David Richmond

    David Richmond Not-So-Newbie

    I’ve yet to try any of the nut-based cheeses. They seemed a bit calorie-heavy for me but it does seem silly not to try one.
    I had to abandon a lot of recipes because of ingredients that were either too hard to find or way too expensive (I’m looking at you, agar, kudzu and carrageenan). I’ll be consuming a lot of whatever I eventually find/make so it needs to be cost-effective and easy to find. I did attempt some subtitutions, discovering in the process how limited my cooking skills are. I’m apparently a great cook… at a very small range of dishes.
     
  6. Andy_T

    Andy_T Addicted Poster Forum Moderator

    Location:
    Hannover, Germany
    Unfortunately, the texture of casein-based dairy cheese is the most difficult thing to recreate vegan. There are some vegan cheeses that melt, but that stretchy consistency is nearly exclusive to dairy cheese.

    So what I did was ... I just "forgot" about it when I went vegan and tried to enjoy the different vegan cheeses, well knowing that they do not totally compare to dairy cheese.
     
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  7. KLS52

    KLS52 Only Kindness Matters

    I will miss fresh mozzarella till the day I die...

    Lol. :)
     
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  8. shyvas

    shyvas Deity Forum Moderator

    I wish that someone out there could duplicate Stilton and English Cheddar. :(
     
  9. Andy_T

    Andy_T Addicted Poster Forum Moderator

    Location:
    Hannover, Germany
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  10. Andy_T

    Andy_T Addicted Poster Forum Moderator

    Location:
    Hannover, Germany
    I wholeheartedly agree!

    But I understand in the UK there are already some "Free From" or similar Cheddar varieties available. Have you tried any of these?

    I am really dismayed at the number of Vegan cheese manufacturers who think that if they create a vegan cheese tasting of nothing but sporting a vivid yellow colour, they can rightfully call it "Cheddar"....
     
  11. shyvas

    shyvas Deity Forum Moderator

    None of them taste even vaguely, like Stilton or Cheddar.
     
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  12. Andy_T

    Andy_T Addicted Poster Forum Moderator

    Location:
    Hannover, Germany
    Ah. Sorry to hear that.
    Before I went vegan, I did like English cheeses, Cheddar, Stilton, Wensleydale, Sage Derby ....
     
  13. Poppy

    Poppy Ankle Biter

    Yeah, I think you really just have to give up specific cheeses. The best we can do, at least from my point of view based on what's readily available, is accept that a cheese-like resemblance is the best one can do right now. Hopefully it will change, and it's certainly better than is used to be. :)
     
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  14. shyvas

    shyvas Deity Forum Moderator

    There are no plant based cheeses in supermarkets over here. The only one that the local organic stores sell is grated and costs a whopping 3.70 € for a small pack.
     
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  15. Amy SF

    Amy SF Dweller in nature

    If someone can make a “bleeding” veggieburger, then a vegan cheese that exactly duplicates a dairy cheese can be made. It’s just a matter of time.
     
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  16. PTree15

    PTree15 Beach bum

    Location:
    Connecticut
    When that happens, I will be one happy girl. I confess to missing Brie and Cheddar.
     
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  17. Poppy

    Poppy Ankle Biter

    Not really q Brie or cheddar misser here, but (omg) stilton with cranberries and real parmesan.
     
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  18. Andy_T

    Andy_T Addicted Poster Forum Moderator

    Location:
    Hannover, Germany
    There are incredible cashew-based brie:camembert alternatives in Europe, e.g. those made by Cashewbert, Happy Cheeze or Serotonina. Pricey, but IMO hard to distinguish from the original.
     
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  19. KLS52

    KLS52 Only Kindness Matters

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  20. shyvas

    shyvas Deity Forum Moderator

    I saw vegan mozzarella made with rice milk in the local organic store. I thought that I would pass due to the price plus I'm not keen on rice milk.
     
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