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News Labour MPs - Quit Over Anti-Semitism

Celibataire

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There is no 'Global Jewish Conspiracy' to undermine Corbyn, but there is a power-struggle going on within the Labour Party between rival factions, Blairites and Corbynistas (Corporatists vs Marxists), neither of which represents what used to be Labour's working-class voting base.
 

Indian Summer

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The accusations regarding anti-semitism within the Labour party often seem obviously politically motivated - the issue has been weaponised in order to smear Corbyn and his allies, and of course the British media is generally ever so happy to help with this. Meanwhile, the media has utterly failed to hold Bojo the Clown accountable, so he's now just days away from becoming our next prime minister. It would be funny if it were a comedy show, but unfortunately this is happening in real life.


 
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Moll Flanders

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I just read in the Guardian that the whistleblowers are saying that they are going to sue the Labour Party after they were defamed for coming forward with the accusations of anti-semitism. Corbyn has mismanaged this from the very start.

There is no 'Global Jewish Conspiracy' to undermine Corbyn, but there is a power-struggle going on within the Labour Party between rival factions, Blairites and Corbynistas (Corporatists vs Marxists), neither of which represents what used to be Labour's working-class voting base.
The problem is that voters don't care about this boring infighting within the Labour party. I just want a party that can provide an opposition to the government, that is what they are there for. I think the SNP is doing a better job of that than the Labour Party at the moment.
 

Celibataire

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It's off-topic but the SNP has its own issues, notably the lack of a viable currency plan, the reason that 'indyref' failed in the first place: post-secession would Scotland keep the pound whilst no longer being in a political union with England, would it adopt the Euro or have its own currency (as the Republic of Ireland used to have before its government gave away its fiscal sovereignty)? Scotland currently runs a huge spending deficit (even net of oil revenues) with the rest of the UK, so someone else would have to pick up that tab. The SNP's oxymoronic policy of 'independence' within the EU must be so that Scotland can be subsidised by the taxpayers of Germany rather than the taxpayers of England.

GERS shows that Scotland's fiscal position continues to be weak but tells us much more as well -

The main reason for Scotland’s higher implicit budget deficit is that government spending per person is higher than the UK average while onshore tax revenues are a little lower than the UK average. For instance, Table 1 shows that in 2017–18, government spending per person was 13.2% above the UK average, but onshore revenues were 4.7% below the UK average. At their current low levels, offshore oil and gas revenues from the North Sea can only make up a small part of this difference.
 
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shyvas

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It's off-topic but the SNP has its own issues, notably the lack of a viable currency plan, the reason that 'indyref' failed in the first place: post-secession would Scotland keep the pound whilst no longer being in a political union with England, would it adopt the Euro or have its own currency (as the Republic of Ireland used to have before its government gave away its fiscal sovereignty)? Scotland currently runs a huge spending deficit (even net of oil revenues) with the rest of the UK, so someone else would have to pick up that tab. The SNP's oxymoronic policy of 'independence' within the EU must be so that Scotland can be subsidised by the taxpayers of Germany rather than the taxpayers of England.
That's right.:)
Nicola Sturgeon is planning to hold a 2 nd referendum to enable Scotland to join the EU if Brexit ever happens. The major drawback is that Scotland would require UK's approval to do so.;)
 

Celibataire

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While RT might not be the most objective source, this article seems interesting:

Thanks for posting. It's interesting - if that is the correct word - the way that this issue has spread beyond this country, to people who would otherwise have little more than a passing interest in the internal machinations of Britain's Labour Party. I think that where a lot of the allegations of 'anti-Semitism' come from is that Tony Blair's main fundraiser was Michael Levy, whom Blair made a peer. It was Levy whose contacts turned Labour into a party of big business, New Labour. David Osler's book published in 2002 has more information. BBC link below from 2007:

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Lord Levy: Labour's fundraiser

Recent link from Sky with embedded interview with Levy:

Jewish peer Lord Levy 'under the microscope every day' over Labour membership
 

Indian Summer

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Another perspective regarding the chief rabbi's recent intervention into the election:
Corbyn is not an anti-Semite. He never was. His real sin is his staunch position against injustice in the world, including the version Israel perpetrates. Today this is anti-Semitism. The Hungarian Viktor Orban, the Austrian Freedom Party and the extreme right in Europe are not the danger to Jews. Corbyn is the enemy. The new and efficient strategy of Israel and the Zionist establishment brands every seeker of justice as an anti-Semite, and any criticism of Israel as hatred of Jews. Corbyn is a victim of this strategy, which threatens to paralyze and silence Europe with regard to Israel.
Full opinion letter:
(Gideon Levy, 28. Nov. 2019)
 
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