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UK Brexit aftermath/repercussions

Someone online called me a Remoaner and said that I was out of touch with "ordinary" people because I live in London. God knows what that even means. :rofl:I just voted Lib Dem.
 

Indian Summer

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Both the Conservative and the Labour parties have the same problem: They've been riding two horses at the same time for a long time, but gradually they've been forced to become increasingly clear about what sort of Brexit outcome they actually support, and naturally this will lead to disappointment for some voters/supporters.

It seems that perhaps the Labour leadership's strategy is to play their whole hand of cards before they play the second referendum card. They know that realistically a second referendum is the only solution that can work, but not until all the other cards have been played. This way they can also say they really tried to make Brexit happen as they had promised after the first referendum, but the government just refused to be sensible and support a customs union / soft Brexit, so they were simply forced to support a second referendum. At the same time they're saying they're the only party for both remainers and brexiteers, and that they're trying to bring the country together etc.

The Conservative leadership's Brexit strategy is less clear to me. The prime minister is saying she just won't support a second referendum. Her withdrawal agreement has been defeated twice in parliament. The government's negotiations with Labour are doomed because even if they should reach an agreement, their unruly MPs (Conservative + Labour) probably won't support it in sufficient numbers.
 

Andy_T

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Someone online called me a Remoaner and said that I was out of touch with "ordinary" people because I live in London. God knows what that even means. :rofl:
Seems to me like something you should wear with pride.
After all, as veg*, we are already very much out of touch with "ordinary" people.
 
The latest YouGov voting intention poll shows support for both the Labour and Conservative parties falling away as the electorate intends to cast protest votes on both sides of the Brexit debate.

The Brexit Party remains well ahead of the pack with 35% of the vote, while the pro-EU Liberal Democrats move into second place on 16%, just ahead of Labour on 15%. The Greens and Conservatives make up the top five on 10% and 9% respectively.

The problem is that the Remain vote is being split.

I'm getting two or three emails from the Lib Dems every day since I donated money to them.:rofl: I was actually going to become a full time member, but thought I would wait. It was such a refreshing change to vote for a party that I actually agree with for once.
 

Indian Summer

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I was chuckling at a headline I read just now :D
Sky Views: Who will win the Tory Game Of Thrones?

That said, I fear that we may end up with Boris as new prime minister after all. He'll obviously face the same problems as May with bringing about Brexit, i.e. no support in parliament, so he'll simply drag out the time and pretend to be working for a solution, but in reality just let the clock run out, which could mean the EU will kick the UK out on Halloween.
 

Andy_T

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My personal view, but ... With the situation our planet is currently in, and the failure of most political parties to properly react to it, I see no logical reason why anybody concerned about the environment, climate change or species extinction would vote for anything else than a Green Party.
 

Indian Summer

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My personal view, but ... With the situation our planet is currently in, and the failure of most political parties to properly react to it, I see no logical reason why anybody concerned about the environment, climate change or species extinction would vote for anything else than a Green Party.
There could be tactical voting reasons, of course ...
 

shyvas

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It would seem that Farage's Brexit party is going to get a majority of votes. However, polls aren't always accurate.
I honestly don't know how all of this is going to end as the country is very divided.

Andrea Leadsom resigned last night as she could no longer support May who is now agreeing to a 2nd referendum.

It all seems like an awful movie with a very badly written script !
 
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